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"I meant no disrespect to my friend Robert". None taken. I thought he was anti-American like Jane. I have honor for those who serve in the military. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on June 7, 2011, 11:35 am - (0 votes)
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Dol, you make a good point about dark movie endings becoming more common in the '70s. I think the Hays Code was discontinued in the late '60s, being replaced with the movie rating system. At any rate, much of it had been ignored or circumvented for years before its end, so I'm not sure whether the proliferation of films with less than happy endings was due to a relaxing of censorship standards or the general cynicism which descended on America - and especially on Hollywood - during that time. Also, I do remember Futureworld, which WAS pretty silly. (The earlier Westworld was kind of cool though, and I really hoped at the time that I would live long enough to see that sort of technology become reality.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on June 6, 2011, 7:56 pm - (1 votes)
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Actually, grim ending were very common during the 70s, as it was the new "in" thing, with the new generation of moviemakers rebelling against the stereotypical happy ending. I also believe this is when the Hays Code, which stipulated that a movie *had* to end with the antagonist getting what he deserved (I kid you not) was abolished. Oh BTW I got a bit confused about Peter Fonda in World War II for a second, until I realized there was no way he could have and looked so young in Easy Rider :-) BTW check out Futureworld sometimes, it's ultra-cheesy but ends with Fonda (Peter, that is) giving perhaps the most melodramatic and unintentionally funny middle finger in media history. -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on June 5, 2011, 2:27 am - (2 votes)
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By the way, I meant no disrespect to my friend Robert, and in fact am not sure he was even dissing Henry Fonda per se. My comment - which was maybe somewhat off-topic - was directed at folks who devalue a military veteran because his political views don't match theirs. (And it's doubly shameful if they themselves didn't serve in the military, or if they give a pass to political allies who didn't.) Back to Peter Fonda: I enjoyed the creepy movie Race With the Devil, which he made in the '70s with Warren Oates, Loretta Swit, and the lovely Lara Parker (who played the hot witch Angelique on the original Dark Shadows). It has a somewhat grim ending, which was unusual for that era. (Though, come to think of it, it isn't dissimilar to Easy Rider's ending.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on June 5, 2011, 12:08 am - (1 votes)
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You're right, Pelirojo; I should have made that clearer in my post. I do get a bit steamed when a man who enlisted in the armed forces to serve his country in wartime is subjected to the sort of spiteful talk that might be more properly directed at those who found reasons not to enlist. But back to the question of Peter Fonda's fishboning. His acting career has been surprisingly prolific; I count 62 movies in which he has appeared. Admittedly, few were notable, but then that's true of most people in the acting biz. He was quite good in Ulee's Gold, and he stole every scene he was in in 3:10 to Yuma. If you don't like his political views, you'll say he boned from the beginning, and if you thought he was one righteous dude back in the '60s, you'll take the view that he hasn't boned at all. I personally don't feel strongly enough either way to have an opinion, except to say that the man is who he is, and he's pretty much always been as we see him today. (Sorry if that sounds wishy-washy.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on June 4, 2011, 11:10 pm - (1 votes)
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I must have been mistaken about Henry. I could have sworn he was anti-American. If not, I apologetically withdraw my accusation. I doubt anyone will argue with Jane Fonda being a traitor. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on June 4, 2011, 10:23 pm - (0 votes)
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Soggy,
Just to clarify for everyone else reading this who may not know of the family history, the World War II service record refers to HENRY Fonda not his son Peter! BTW, one my grandmothers happened to run into Henry Fonda in Macy's back in the early 1960's and calmly told him that she'd always liked his acting and he politely thanked her with a smile[ no autograph was sought or given here]. Would it be that manners such as those had been passed down to the next generation! -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on June 4, 2011, 3:45 pm - (1 votes)
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He also served honorably in the United States Navy during WW2, in both the Atlantic and Pacific theaters (and therefore far away from the dangerous Hollywood billets to which Ronald Reagan was assigned). This while John Wayne was finding one reason after another to remain a civilian.... -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on June 3, 2011, 1:16 pm - (1 votes)
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Excuse me everyone but when did HENRY Fonda do anything that could have been considered traitorous? He was one of the outstanding performers of his generation who may not have been the ideal father to his offspring but I don't recall Henry being less than a loyal US American. It's interesting to note that he and James Stewart stayed staunch friends to the very end despite having differing political views. Can anyone imagine Jimmy Stewart considering him a friend if HE thought Henry was a traitor? I don't think so. -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on June 3, 2011, 12:29 pm - (1 votes)
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Bet ya if anyone called him out on that, he would all of a sudden say "They were exercising their first amendment rights". -- Submitted By: (PYLrulz) on June 2, 2011, 5:54 pm - (1 votes)
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Peter Fonda called President Obama "A ****ing traitor". I wonder if he's ever said that about his sister and father, too? -- Submitted By: (Robert) on June 2, 2011, 1:00 pm - (2 votes)
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