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Kingbk, that's the best thing you have ever posted here. Seriously. It cannot be praised enough. -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on August 23, 2012, 7:32 pm - (2 votes)
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I have a problem with "isms" in general and the equal rights controversy. Until there are no more special rights for women, blacks, gays, etc. and until there are no more special scholarships for them, no more special holidays for them, no more any of that, then we are not equal. Once we ALL have the same EQUAL rights, not SPECIAL rights, and once double standards are over, then we will achieve equal rights. There is major confusion between EQUAL and SPECIAL. -- Submitted By: (kingbk) on August 23, 2012, 4:36 pm - (5 votes)
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One annoying feminism thing is how women complain about making less money on average. For a long time I wondered why this was. Why would employers pay women that are doing the same job and have the same qualifications less money? How could they legally get away with it?
Only recently, I read an article (written by a woman btw) that called people on this. It mentioned how career choices are much more for a factor in this then unequal pay (which in my opinion, any degree of is not acceptable). I remember the same article also decrying a woman that balked at male students in need of assistance, the woman saying that 'they'll just make more anyway, so what's the point?'
Again, that seemed like one of those attitudes that might have had a point in the 1950s, but in more modern times seems bitter and outright cruel.
I also acknowledge that it comes from both sides. There are men out there that have an attitude about equal rights and regard women in such a way that one might end up wondering if said men have travelled forward in time from the 50s or were in suspended animation and only just woke up.
As for one point that's not really feminism but is still interesting. In Firefox, the dictionary has the word misogyny but not the word misandry. A minor thing but still interesting. -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on August 23, 2011, 3:07 pm - (2 votes)
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I guess living down in Good 'Ol Virginia the women understand the difference. I've dated a lot of go-getter high powered types and they still like it when I pay and hold door. And sometimes they pay ;) And fellas if she says not to, just don't hold the door. -- Submitted By: (wilddrawfour) on August 23, 2011, 12:02 pm - (0 votes)
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ExplodingConsole, preach AWN, brutha!!! That's exactly what I was saying, how some women will always act like it's the 50s and they're all being treated by men like little girls and not "allowed" to do certain things when in fact they got the equality they wanted, and then some. Wilddrawfour, it *seems* like it should be that simple and I'd love it if that was true, but in real life it just isn't. Especially the women who actually get offended when you even offer to do any of that stuff on a date. BTW you guys should love this. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheUnfairSex BTW I can't wait for any women to chime in on this (Stephanie, anyone?). -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on August 1, 2011, 11:56 pm - (2 votes)
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I don't think opening doors for women conflicts with Feminism. Nor does buying her dinner while on a date. She wants equality under the law and a man who will treat her right. Seems simple to me. -- Submitted By: (wilddrawfour) on August 1, 2011, 9:35 pm - (-1 votes)
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Definitely true about the draft.
I think the biggest problem with Feminism is when things stopped being "You can't refuse her just because she's a woman" (I'm talking in terms of jobs, education etc.) and started getting into "You must say yes to her because she's a woman". That was when Feminism became a problem.
That and double standards such as okay to have all sorts of scholarships for women only (and pretty much everyone else). Yet, the very second you have a white males only scholarship, even if it's just for a small amount of money, people freak out saying it's discrimination.
Now, years (decades?) ago when it was much harder for Women to get into college, and even harder for them to get people to not treat them like shit, I accept there was a need for these sorts of things. It was trying to even the odds so to speak. Now however, I think it goes against the idea of equality.
There are other examples of course. I feel however that the aforementioned example does a good job at summing it up.
-- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on August 1, 2011, 7:55 pm - (4 votes)
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Also, I love it when women who have jobs act like it's 50 years ago and they're being some huge pioneer for womankind and being held down by men. Look, I don't care if you're a man, woman or a three headed purple skinned alien, all I care about is the job getting done right. I couldn't care less if you've got an outdated, antiquated persecution complex from being a female mechanic or landscaper or whatever. -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on August 1, 2011, 7:05 pm - (3 votes)
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Feminism BTF when the following things happened. One, women realized working was a drag (which men had known for centuries) and they could make as much or more money being sex objects (just look at the now record and absurd number of female "celebrities" today). Two, women started making douchebaggery their most desirable trait in a man--even as they complained about how there were no good ones. Three, women started acting just as macho as men if not more so and four, the whole special rights thing just like every other "minority" group. So now you have a nation full of "empowered" women who strut around acting sexually aggressive (just like men wanted them to all along), seek out the men most likely to hurt them, deliberately emasculate any good ones they happen to find to the point where most men are now afraid to get married, and all the while not really being any more "empowered" than any man who works for somebody else. And when the chips are down, most of them will still stand around demanding that the man take action, even if they've made him too afraid to do so. Some progress. (Rolls eyes.) Disclaimer: this isn't true for *all* women, just a growing and disturbing number of them. I never had a problem with women having jobs and getting paid, but did all the other stuff have to come along with it too? -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on August 1, 2011, 6:54 pm - (4 votes)
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I agree with your thoughts on the draft. I always hate when you hear advertisements about registering for the draft on the radio and it is a woman's voice telling men to do the honorable thing. -- Submitted By: (MCS) on July 31, 2011, 11:43 pm - (5 votes)
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My dad always said if feminists really wanted equal treatment they would demand to register for the draft.
Now you've got women in jobs that they shouldn't hold. Here in Washington state we just had a case where this little young blonde was working as a guard at a mens' prison and was overpowered and brutally strangled to death by a violent rapist. All the media talking heads keep asking why this happened and how her death could have been prevented and NO ONE has dared point out the obvious. -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on July 28, 2011, 2:21 am - (5 votes)
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Feminism is mostly an outdated concept. Yes, it had its place in the 60s and 70s, but nowadays it seems to have been a focus more on special rights than equal rights. I'm sure there are several people who know that feminist who cries for equality but then expects doors opened for her, the man to pay for everything, and expects not to have to work.
I don't care if I offend people with this post so bring it on! -- Submitted By: (MCS) on July 27, 2011, 1:32 pm - (4 votes)
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